to all you lovely people who are "ashamed" of our country. who think that president obama has been apologizing to terrorists and hanging out with dictators. interesting that during the election he was "hanging out" and "paling around" with terrorists, not much has changed on the right. sometimes i doubt if it ever will. i was no fan of secretary clinton during the primaries, but she has some brilliant words for rep. pence, who apparently never read a history book in his life.
i completely agree with her closing comments. we tried isolationism for eight years, it hasn't really seemed to work. our countries relationships with venezuela, iran, russia and a host of others were worsened by the bush administration, not made better. if i remember there was an attempt to boycott france? why france? why not china, who continues violate basic human rights on a daily basis. (oh that's right they make everything we consume, and everything we used to make.) to those of you who say so what. imagine if you didn't talk to half of the people in your neighborhood. people across the street, two or three houses away. people across the hall in your apartament building. wouldn't your life be much fuller and richer if you did?
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Clinton answered this question without getting to the nitty gritty of what was being accused - that the Obama administration appreciates some of Chavez's politics. It's important to state that Obama was my dream candidate during last election when I say that I used to love Chavez because he took his country's wealth from oil and gave it back to his people. He did this not because he was hell bent on socialism, but because the divide between the rich and poor was so dramatic that it not only divided social status, it also clearly divided politics and a very select few from the vast majority. He was elected, everything about Venezuela was free.
Chavez is not a sworn enemy of the US, he was an enemy of Bush. I don't hate or fear him now, I sympathize with him. He got traumatized by the US-involved coup and attempt on his life. He, like most other national leaders, disrespected Bush and had a particularly good reason to hate and fear the US, as it was so unilaterally controlled by the neocons.
Unfortunately, I think Bush succeeded, like in so many other areas, to paralyze progress with fear. Chavez is a less effective leader after that coup because he's terrified of dying and letting go of his rule aka (as he sees it) 'Venezuela's only hope.'
I don't like that Chavez is a dictator but I must say I respect him because he's not fascist. Obama's intentions are to make sure he doesn't turn into Castro. I like that. I also like Clinton's answer to Pence. On a side note I'm having a hard time believing this wish for bipartisanship. Forget the actuality of it, I don't even think anyone's wishing for it.
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Clinton answered this question without getting to the nitty gritty of what was being accused - that the Obama administration appreciates some of Chavez's politics. It's important to state that Obama was my dream candidate during last election when I say that I used to love Chavez because he took his country's wealth from oil and gave it back to his people. He did this not because he was hell bent on socialism, but because the divide between the rich and poor was so dramatic that it not only divided social status, it also clearly divided politics and a very select few from the vast majority. He was elected, everything about Venezuela was free.
Chavez is not a sworn enemy of the US, he was an enemy of Bush. I don't hate or fear him now, I sympathize with him. He got traumatized by the US-involved coup and attempt on his life. He, like most other national leaders, disrespected Bush and had a particularly good reason to hate and fear the US, as it was so unilaterally controlled by the neocons.
Unfortunately, I think Bush succeeded, like in so many other areas, to paralyze progress with fear. Chavez is a less effective leader after that coup because he's terrified of dying and letting go of his rule aka (as he sees it) 'Venezuela's only hope.'
I don't like that Chavez is a dictator but I must say I respect him because he's not fascist. Obama's intentions are to make sure he doesn't turn into Castro. I like that. I also like Clinton's answer to Pence. On a side note I'm having a hard time believing this wish for bipartisanship. Forget the actuality of it, I don't even think anyone's wishing for it.
Posted by: Brendan | April 22, 2009 at 03:19 PM
Thanks for posting this, I didn't catch it initially. As SoS, Clinton has demonstrated a classiness I didn't know she was capable of...
Posted by: Andrew Durkin | April 23, 2009 at 12:42 AM
@andrew i'm as surprised as you are!
Posted by: leesax | April 23, 2009 at 03:05 PM
@brendan i for one am not wishing for bipartisanship. the other side has no new ideas, and their old ones are dangerous.
Posted by: leesax | April 23, 2009 at 03:08 PM